THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR

The Ben Folds Five Digest

Issue #351 - June 12, 1997



Magical Armchair Digest    Thursday, June 12 1997    Volume 01 : Number 351



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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:

    G'day
    that goddarn mint
    Apologies and Conan
    BFF rips Mpls Radio Station cont. 
    Brick interpretations
    Brick interpretations
    Relax 
    Re: Bands that Sound Like BFF (Five For Fighting)
    New BFF homepage
    BF5 on J McCarthy Update

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 05:38:14
From: mikado99@usa.net
Subject: G'day

Well, not that much to say other than the fact that this is my first 
post to the armchair. I hail from the land down under (Australia for the 
uneducated among you) - Western Australia to be exact.

BFF has not had the exposure that they have had in the states but 
hopefully this will change......They did finish 3rd in a "Hottest 100" 
competition run by a national radio station which can't have done them any 
harm.

Rumours abound about a possible Australia tour - are they true???

Needless to say i would love to see the guys live - i have read a lot 
of good things about them.

I have read quite a lot about 'bootleg' tapes which seem to be very 
popular..... How does one go about getting copies??? Anyone????

Fell free to contact me with any information that my enlighten one 
such as myself.....i would appreciate it....

Better sign off and let the next person put in their two bobs worth..

Kangaroos and Gum Trees
Adam Jeffrey
mikado99@usa.net
ajeffrey@tartarus.uwa.edu.au

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 06:42:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: Megan Hope Foster <mhfoster@artsci.wustl.edu>
Subject: that goddarn mint

that was my first fave thing about conan...the franklin goddarn mint.

the other was his little "baby" after the rockford files.

my tape ran out right as he said "confess"!! the crowd went nuts, yes? of
course...it's ben!!!

megan.

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:14:16 -0400
From: "Faix, Andrew" <AFaix@harris.com>
Subject: Apologies and Conan

Hello All,

Apologies for my rather pointed retort I posted recently in response to
Mr. Snead's comments.  I was disciplined accordingly and it won't happen
again.

On the BF5 side of things:

I saw them on Conan last night and while I was psyched to see them, I
was a bit disappointed in their lack of enthusiasm.  Granted, I don't
blame them.  Yeah its good exposure, but I can empathize with trying to
build up a lot of energy to do only one song for a faceless TV audience
and a studio audience whom half of which were there to see Fara Faucet
(sp?).

I guess I shouldn't have expected too much.  I was hoping for something
other than Battle, but that wasn't unsurprising either.  I was also
impressed that they let them get away with "..see if Paul can score some
weed...," but alas Ben had to tone down his "Franklin fuckin' Mint" to
"Franklin gosh darn mint".

Well, mabey we'll see a little more pep in their Jenny McCarthy
appearance.

Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

Later,
- -Andrew (afaix@harris.com)

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:18:23 -0500
From: MZipko@nhbpr.com (Mike Zipko)
Subject: BFF rips Mpls Radio Station cont. 

I think Ed may be missing the great irony of a Disney-Owned "Edge" van 
outside a show featuring an artist they do not play. Radio stations will 
play what they think will make money, despite requests from a band to "not 
play" their music. Disney, now under intense fire in Minneapolis from 
Chancellor Communications and Howard Stern, does as little as possible to add 
new music to their playlist that does not first have a proven track record 
from other markets. BFF, Soul Coughing, Squirrel Nut Zippers and several 
others owe thanks to the dearly departed REV 105 for being one of the first 
to play their music. It is amazing for a band that receives zero airplay in 
the Twin Cities to still sell out First Avenue and then to see the one 
station that should add BFF use the concert as a marketing opportunity. 

There is a reason music sales across the country are flat or sinking. The 
conglomeration of radio is wiping out radio stations that take chances. It 
was sad irony to see the EDGE van in Minneapolis at the show. It would be 
great to believe the growing number of people who subscribe to this list 
could wield power enough to make PD's add BFF but I would not hold breath. We 
are at the beginning of a bad cycle - bad music karma - and it will be a 
while before things change. 

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.  The powers that be at the EDGE are 
spending more time worrying about their ratings slide than paying attention 
to BFF and fans who want more from a radio station than Bush. 

mz
mzipko@nhbpr.com


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REPLY FROM: Mike Zipko

Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 10:04:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: Edward A Weinstein <wein0047@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Japanese crowds and the Edge in Minneapolis

First, in response to the observations on Japanese crowds:

Yes, they are generally better behave during shows than their American 
counterparts, but after the show it's a whole new ballgame...  Don't be 
in the trampling path if there's someone coming out the back of a a live 
venue of any sort.

As for the Edge playing BFF in Minneapolis:

It's funny that Ben said he hoped they didn't play them, because Alan 
Wolmark asked me to "Call the Edge and tell 'em to play the f***in' 
album" not so very long ago... as for why they got played, realistically 
there's no way someone could say that at First Avenue (the venue in 
Minneapolis) in front of a packed house and not expect it to get back to 
the powers that be at the Edge.  But Alan had a point, folks-- what about 
a movement on the grass roots level to get BFF out there a little more?  
There's strength (and influence) in numbers, and there are quite a lot of 
us now.
If anyone thinks this is a good idea, let's discuss.  If not, I'd really 
rather not hear any bitching about "But I don't want the band to get any 
bigger...."

EAW

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:29:09 -0500
From: Leslie Weiler <leslie@charybdis.com>
Subject: Brick interpretations

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:59:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: McCarthy83@aol.com
Subject: None=20

I was just wondering if anyone could tell me what the song Brick is =
about.  I
have listened to it so many times and read the lyrics so many times and =
I am
just not positive.  If anyone knows, please reply.  Thanks
- - -Lauren


	i think, from multiple listenings, that it is a song about a boy taking =
his pregnant girlfriend to have an abortion one weekend while her =
parents are out of town. She doensnt fare so well, however, and they are =
forced to come clean. "she's a brick and i'm drowning slowly..." is a =
statement of being attached to someone through guilt, not love.  it's a =
really sad song, and it tears me up occasionally.
		leslie@charybdis.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:29:09 -0500
From: Leslie Weiler <leslie@charybdis.com>
Subject: Brick interpretations

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To: 	armchair@ford.il.ft.hse.nl
Subject: 	Magical Armchair Digest V1 #347------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:59:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: McCarthy83@aol.com
Subject: None=20

I was just wondering if anyone could tell me what the song Brick is =
about.  I
have listened to it so many times and read the lyrics so many times and =
I am
just not positive.  If anyone knows, please reply.  Thanks
- - -Lauren


	i think, from multiple listenings, that it is a song about a boy taking =
his pregnant girlfriend to have an abortion one weekend while her =
parents are out of town. She doensnt fare so well, however, and they are =
forced to come clean. "she's a brick and i'm drowning slowly..." is a =
statement of being attached to someone through guilt, not love.  it's a =
really sad song, and it tears me up occasionally.
		leslie@charybdis.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 97 12:30:34 EDT
From: shultz@bme1.image.uky.edu (Jason Shultz)
Subject: Relax 

Top ten albums:

10. I have too much time on my hands - Bryan Snead
9. I am insecure about my own sexuality, so I call people "gay"
   and "fags" - Bryan Snead
8. I am a hypocrite by taking up space on the mailing list
   without contributing anything worthwhile - Bryan Snead
7. I need attention - Bryan Snead
6. I can't really unsubscribe from this list, because
   then I won't get mail from anyone! - Bryan Snead
5. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa - Bryan Snead
4. Although everyone is posting their top 10 lists, I will
   make an idiotic statement like "no one cares about your 
   top 10" - Bryan Snead
3. I suck - Bryan Snead
2. I am too arrogant to think I may learn about some
   new music from another member of this list - Bryan Snead
1. Did I mention I suck? - Bryan Snead


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*  Jason Shultz                                   *
*  Orthopaedic Biomechanics Laboratory            *
*  Wenner-Gren Center for Biomedical Engineering  *
*  University of Kentucky                         *
*  shultz@bme1.image.uky.edu                      * 
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:12:24 -0400
From: David Della Bitta <ddel4695@uriacc.uri.edu>
Subject: Re: Bands that Sound Like BFF (Five For Fighting)

Ugh.. no.. do NOT buy the Five for Fighting album.  I got a demo tape of
them at the Philly concert of BFF and I thought they were pretty good so I
went out and bought their CD.  Big mistake. Their only good songs were on
that tape (2) and the other songs have intelligable lyrics that make you
wonder why the heck BFF allowed them to hand out their tapes at the show.
For instance:

Day by Day I resort to you I do
and I wash up after you're through
If I can say .. that's okay

and:

I got a thing for sunken shipwrecks
With booty (yes booty!) of gold
I don't care if its wet

and finally:

I got a thing for fish with no eyes
Who swim deep in the sea
With nothing to see.

What the heck does that mean!?

Dave

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:19:36 -0400
From: Steffen Donath <SDonath@compuserve.com>
Subject: New BFF homepage

Hi all you Armchairians!

Just wanted to let everybody know that I ahve put together my personal BFF
homepage. If you want to have a look at it: The address is:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/Homepages/SDonath

So step right in and tell me what you think about it. There are also plenty
of BFF tapes to trade.

STEFFEN

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:50:00
From: zerocool@magg.net
Subject: BF5 on J McCarthy Update

>I'm not sure if this was mentioned, BUT according to my local TV guide, the 
>Ben Folds Five appearance on "The Jenny McCarthy Show" is airing on 
>Wednesday, June 11th at 10:30 P.M. (Eastern time), NOT the 13th as 
>previously mentioned on 120 Minutes. 

This is an update I received from Epic on  6-10-97...


Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 10:58:05 -0700
From: Epic_Records@epiccenter.music.sony.com
To: benfoldsfive@listserv.music.sony.com
Subject: Ben Folds Five will be performing on the Jenny McCarthy Show


Ben Folds Five will perform their new single "One Angry Dwarf And 200
Solemn Faces" on the Jenny McCarthy Show.
Thursday 6/12/1997 @ 8:30pm and
Saturday 6/14/1997 @ 10:00pm 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Quote of the moment...			 +
					 +
is it this place that makes me fall from you		 +
forget the words that once rang so true		 +
did we expect that life was ever fair, my god... TTWS	 +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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