THE MAGICAL ARMCHAIR
The Ben Folds Five Digest
Issue #552 - October 22, 1997
Magical Armchair Digest Wednesday, October 22 1997 Volume 01 : Number 552
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TOPICS IN THIS DIGEST:
1st album vs. the 2nd
bff vs. Stevie Wonder
Cleveland fans
Problems wth the Armchair
Northwest Show? Anybody?
Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #551
Meeting the guys
thanks for the site VITO!!!
Underground singles
Introduction
Entertainment Weekly/Derek @ William and Mary
minidisc trades
halloween bf5 caravan........
People picking on Ben Folds Five
Re: FIRST POST FROM BRAD C.: ALICE CHILDRESS AND MORE.
FIRST POSTING: BRAD C....RE: SUMMER B., ALICE C., AND MORE.
live at LIVID
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Date: 20 Oct 97 15:38 EDT
From: KLEVERING.KRISTIN@ann-arbor.va.gov
Subject: 1st album vs. the 2nd
I'm behind on my armchair issues (I get this at work), but I want to speak
my 2 cents about the albums.
I didn't get into the band until I heard BOWCCL on the radio back in
March this year. I got the WAEA cd, really liked it, then saw them live
in April. Blew me away - best band I ever saw. It wasn't until a month
after I saw them live that I found the self-titled album. Then I got
really into that one. I remember asking this girl, who was obviously a
huge fan (I watched as she got Darren's autograph- I was standing right
next to the guy and didn't know it!) which album she liked best. She said
the first one, but the second one was growing on her.
I'll have to say that my fave -by a very slim margin, is the self-titled
one. Ben's piano intros just fill my ears and brain with such joy I can't
stand it! There' much more of a dramatic flair to the self-titled, yet
the little dose of maturity in the second album is refreshing.
This is just my take. My favorite 3 songs are :
1. The Last Polka
2. Philosophy
3. Battle of Who Could Care Less
"I don't want the world, I just want your half." They Might Be Giants,
"Ana Ng"
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:20:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: mayns@netcom.ca
Subject: bff vs. Stevie Wonder
Ya know, I've always thought I've heard a tinge of Stevie Wonder in Ben Folds Five's music, but I'd never been able to put my finger on the exact spot or song that would prove my point. That is, until tonight. I just hear Tom & Mary for the very first time, and know the evidence is all laid out before me: Ben's falsetto, funky piano, bass, and drums rockin' it out, and even some harmonica action. Methinks that the boys' funky side owes a lot to Stevie Wonder. Comments?
- -john maynard
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 21:33:30 PDT
From: evlbison
Subject: Cleveland fans
Hey kids,
Are ya all ready for the Cleveland show? Cleveland will be
NUTS on Halloween. So many concerts, so little time. Glad to
say that I made my plans for the BFF show a while ago. Just
some info for my fellow Cleveland BenHeads. Looking for the
ever elusive Lakewood Civic Center? I can and will provide
directions to it for you, just e-mail me privatly with the
town you live in and I'll send you directions ASAP.
PS
I'm going to a They Might Be Giants concert this Thursday.
This just happens to be game five of the World Series. If
the Indians win the series on that night, it will make it
even better.
Later,
Steve
NO OFFENSE INTENDED TO ANYONE BY ANY OF THIS.
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:47:14 -0400
From: Vito Biliti
Subject: Problems wth the Armchair
To Y'all
Is there a reason why my previous posts have not showed up?! I recently
posted music to One Angry Dwarf, and I let Y'all know about Song For The
Dumped in Japanese on my Webpage!
(http://www.Geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/7544)
I've posted each 2 times, and neither have showed up, but yesterday i
posted a messafe about Elvin Bishop just fine!
Oh well, maybe not, I'll try again.
vito
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:06:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Charlie Brown
Subject: Northwest Show? Anybody?
I'm just wondering if BF5 are considering any Northwest (ie. Seattle area)
dates after their Xmas trip over the pond. (Frank? Little help?) Or maybe
they're keeping it off so they can play a show at my college. That would
be nice.... It's kind of like Pearl Jam playing in San Fransisco next
month with the Stones and not in Seattle (Not to open that can of worms
again...) Just wondering....
Love and Caramel to all,
Max
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REDHOTCHILIPEPPERS* Max Wall SMASHINGPUMPKINS*
BURTBACHARACH* Whitman College PINKFLOYD*
RADIOHEAD* Walla Walla, WA 99362 AEROSMITH*
FIONAAPPLE* http://www.whitman.edu/~wallmr/ BECK*
THEBEATLES* wallmr@whitman.edu STING*
FOOFIGHTERS*RAGEAGAINSTTHEMACHINE*PRESIDENTSOFTHEUNITEDSTATESOFAMERICA*U2*
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:07:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Mr. Anthony G. Hillhouse "
Subject: Re: Magical Armchair Digest V1 #551
Hi all--
Wondering if there's been any speculation as to the slightly off-kilter
intro of "Kate". I mean, it's in time, but the drums come in with a
different groove than the way they do it live.
Any comments?
In the changer:
Tower of Power, _Alive and in Living Color_
Prefab Sprout, _Jordan: The Comeback_
Dag, _Righteous_
311, _Music_
Harry Connick Jr., _When Harry Met Sally_ (soundtrack)
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:08:50 -0700
From: Janet
Subject: Meeting the guys
I'm probably one of the very few people on this list who hasn't met the
guys, hasn't talked to the guys, and hasn't gotten her cast signed by
the guys (you're so cool :) I missed the HORDE festival where they had
autograph booths because I'm dumb, and I've never been to a concert
where they were the main band.
But I'm going to the El Rey on the 30th and I was wondering if it was
really that easy to meet them. Or if there was some secret to it.
I don't know, I probably wouldn't know what to say anyways...
Was anyone else surprised to hear that Travis was opening? I told my
friend and he was shocked. Then he assumed it must be another band with
the same name, Travis is really big in England he says. But it's that
band. I've never listened to them personally, so I wouldn't know.
Take care.
Janet.
- -Why don't we pitch it to the Franklin gosh-darn Mint?-
- --
Serenity Now!! --> http://members.tripod.com/~peachfish/sparkie.htm
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:35:09 -0400
From: "Mike W. Halbert"
Subject: thanks for the site VITO!!!
http://www.Geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/7544/bf5page.html
This is GREAT...i especially appriciat the live real audio shows for
those of us who have to wait another month to see them at the cats
cradle....
thanks!!
Mike
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:25:00 -0700
From: "Julie Hurst"
Subject: Underground singles
I'm in desperation for the underground single, Kate, Where's summer b.? and the others
except One Angry Dwasrf BOWCCL and Uncle Walter. Any one gonna help???
Also i taped Rage but it stuffed I'm in turmoil but thank god my best friend taped
it. I got my photos back from when I met them too. Supurb!!!
Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere!
http://www.mailexcite.com
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:56:26 -0400
From: Bart Smith
Subject: Introduction
Hi. My name is Bart and I'm new to the list. I'm a sophomore at NC
State in Raleigh, NC. I really like good music. And well that's enough
for now I guess. This post seems really lame, but i haven't quite
gotten a feel for how messages on this list usually go.
-- Bart
ps. Hmmmm....I'm really not sure what the point of this message was
other than for me to make sure I was subscribed right and using the
correct email address.
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:31:08 -0400
From: "Lance E. Johnson"
Subject: Entertainment Weekly/Derek @ William and Mary
Hi, all!
Welcome back Anne! Just a quick post:
Just read my latest Entertainment Weekly and they have a short praise for
the boys. They briefly reviewed the Lounge-a-palooza cd and said one of
two highlights was BF5 and "She Don't Use Jelly". The cats at EW like
these guys as earlier in the year, they reviewed WAEA and wrote that BF5
"is everything you want in a rock'n'roll band right now." Amen to that.
To Derek at Bill and Mary College in Virginia: can you hook a brother up
with meeting the boys at the Floodzone? I wanted to hang around after the
Raleigh show but had to drive all the way back to Front Royal at the north
end of the state. I'd appreciate the help.
Later!
Lance
"Who's got the looks, who's got the brians, who's got everything?"
BF5
"You got the look, you got the hook." Prince
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:31:24 +1000
From: Rainy City
Subject: minidisc trades
Hi there people,
I was wondering if there were any people out there that would be
interested in trading songs on MiniDisc. Basically songs from your part of
the world that are really groovy, but get hardly any exposure. And maybe
if there's a lot of people, we could get a chain happening or something.
That would be cool... But is there anyone out there that would be
interested? I have stacks of music that I would love to share with other
people.
BYE!!!
Ad.
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& "...the 17th best band in the world" &
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:09:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: F2G2@aol.com
Subject: halloween bf5 caravan........
OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all you residents of cleveland and the surrounding areas; all of you bf5 fans
that live within driving distance and are planning on spending your night
trying to find lakewood high school's civic auditorium. this is for you,
(even though you totally ignored my horde tour caravan of love).
i will, with glee, get directions for everyone who wants to go.
we've had a coupla mentions on the armchair of everybody, like-minded bf5
fans, getting together and meeting up before the show, having a good time et
al et al.
i can tell you that my good frieng michael and i will be there, and maybe my
girl too.....
so why don't you email me.
is that a good idea?
matthew
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:13:04 -0700
From: "Julie Hurst"
Subject: People picking on Ben Folds Five
So I know a whole heap of people on the net who pick on BFF who deserve a whole heap,
anyonw wants to start a fight with one email me and I'll give you their addresses
Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere!
http://www.mailexcite.com
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:01:35 -0700
From: brad crum
Subject: Re: FIRST POST FROM BRAD C.: ALICE CHILDRESS AND MORE.
HI, ARMCHAIRPERSONS--
FIRST POSTING HERE.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE EL REY SHOW NOVEMBER 30TH--DID I REALLY HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT
WEARING AN IDENTIFYING "BADGE" SO WE'LL KNOW EACH OTHER, OR WAS THAT JUST A CRUEL JOKE
SO I'D LOOK LIKE A CONVENTIONEER FROM FRESNO?
I'VE GOTTA TELL YOU, I'M NOT REALLY ONE TO BE PART OF FANCLUBS AND MAILING LISTS, BUT
THIS BAND MAKES IT ALL WORTH WHILE. I HAVEN'T FELT THIS STRONGLY ABOUT A MUSIC GROUP
SINCE I HEARD THE SONS OF CHAMPLIN IN 1967. (YEAH, WELL LET'S JUST SAY THIS AIN'T MY
FIRST TRIP OUT INTO THE MOSH PIT...)
ANYWAY, BEN AND THE BOYS ARE THE REAL DEAL. I'M AS CONCERNED AS THE REST OF YOU ARE
ABOUT WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO BLOSSOM INTO WIDER ACCEPTANCE-(MY BELOVED "SONS"
NEVER DID, BUT THAT DIDN'T MAKE BILL CHAMPLIN'S MUSIC ANY LESS WONDERFUL.)
BUT THIS IS ABOUT BFF, LONG MAY THEY WAVE. IT'S SO FULFILLING TO BE PART OF OF A
"COTERIE", IF YOU WILL, OF PEOPLE WHO ALL SHARE A STRONG EMOTIONAL REACTION TO A GROUP
OF ARTISTS(BENMANIA?). EMILY S., I FELT YOUR PAIN ABOUT THAT DREAM WHERE BEN SHOWED UP
ALONE FOR A CONCERT {IN A BAD MOOD, YET}. I'M FEELING THE SAME KIND OF ANXIETIES. CAN
THEY STAY TOGETHER, CAN THEY MAKE ANOTHER ALBUM THAT'S AS GOOD AS THE LAST TWO--MAYBE
EVEN BETTER?! I DON'T WANT THIS DREAM TO END. I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW ABOUT
"MY" BAND.
****************************************************************************************ANYWAY, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS.
GROUP HUG. WE WILL PREVAIL -- BECAUSE BFF HAS UNSTOPPABLE TALENT. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT.
***********************************************************************************
RE: ALICE CHILDRESS
BY THE WAY, SOMEBODY ASKED IN THE LAST ARMCHAIR IF ALICE CHILDRESS (AMONG OTHERS) IS A
REAL PERSON. YES, SHE IS A SOUTHERN AUTHOR OF MY GENERATION WHO SEEMS TO HAVE A SPECIAL
APPEAL FOR CERTAIN SOUTHERN GENERATION X-ERS. (SHE WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH BY LI'L KIM
IN A RECENT ROLLING STONE INTERVIEW.
BEN'S ATTITUDE TOWARDS ALICE CHILDRESS WAS INTERESTING AND AMBIVALENT. I SENSE THAT,
WHILE HE GOT ON HER FOR HER NAIVE "OPTIMISM", THERE WAS SOMETHING IN HER OUTLOOK THAT
HE ULTIMATELY NEEDED. SHE WAS THE ONE WHO HE CALLED WHEN HE GOT BEATEN UP -- BECAUSE,
DESPITE HIS TOUGH POSE, HE TOO NEEDED SOMEONE TO TELL HIM THAT EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO
BE ALL RIGHT. (PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF YOU HAVE HEARD THIS EXPLICATION FOR THE THOUSANDTH
TIME...IT'S NEW TO ME.)
INQUIRY ON SUMMER B.:
- ----I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF ANYONE REALLY HAS ANY GOOD INFO ON "SUMMER B." I KNOW SHE'S
A REAL PERSON, BUT HOW DID SHE FIGURE INTO BEN'S LIFE? WAS SHE A GIRLFRIEND, OR
SOMETHING MORE?
THANKS FOR LISTENING. IT'S A SPECIAL PLEASURE TO BE AMONG THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND.
BRAD C. ("LAUGHING AT MY TORCH?")
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:29:12 -0700
From: brad crum
Subject: FIRST POSTING: BRAD C....RE: SUMMER B., ALICE C., AND MORE.
PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS A SECOND SEND: IN MY IGNORANCE I MAY HAVE SENT THE FIRST POSTING TO
THE WRONG ADDRESS : IF BOTH ARRIVED PLEASE DISCARD ONE OR THINGS COULD GET REDUNDANT.
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HI, ARMCHAIRPERSONS--
FIRST POSTING HERE.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE EL REY SHOW NOVEMBER 30TH--DID I REALLY HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT
WEARING AN IDENTIFYING "BADGE" SO WE'LL KNOW EACH OTHER, OR WAS THAT JUST A CRUEL JOKE
SO I'D LOOK LIKE A CONVENTIONEER FROM FRESNO?
I'VE GOTTA TELL YOU, I'M NOT REALLY ONE TO BE PART OF FANCLUBS AND MAILING LISTS, BUT
THIS BAND MAKES IT ALL WORTH WHILE. I HAVEN'T FELT THIS STRONGLY ABOUT A MUSIC GROUP
SINCE I HEARD THE SONS OF CHAMPLIN IN 1967. (YEAH, WELL LET'S JUST SAY THIS AIN'T MY
FIRST TRIP OUT INTO THE MOSH PIT...)
ANYWAY, BEN AND THE BOYS ARE THE REAL DEAL. I'M AS CONCERNED AS THE REST OF YOU ARE
ABOUT WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO BLOSSOM INTO WIDER ACCEPTANCE-(MY BELOVED "SONS"
NEVER DID, BUT THAT DIDN'T MAKE BILL CHAMPLIN'S MUSIC ANY LESS WONDERFUL.)
BUT THIS IS ABOUT BFF, LONG MAY THEY WAVE. IT'S SO FULFILLING TO BE PART OF OF A
"COTERIE", IF YOU WILL, OF PEOPLE WHO ALL SHARE A STRONG EMOTIONAL REACTION TO A GROUP
OF ARTISTS(BENMANIA?). EMILY S., I FELT YOUR PAIN ABOUT THAT DREAM WHERE BEN SHOWED UP
ALONE FOR A CONCERT {IN A BAD MOOD, YET}. I'M FEELING THE SAME KIND OF ANXIETIES. CAN
THEY STAY TOGETHER, CAN THEY MAKE ANOTHER ALBUM THAT'S AS GOOD AS THE LAST TWO--MAYBE
EVEN BETTER?! I DON'T WANT THIS DREAM TO END. I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW ABOUT
"MY" BAND.
****************************************************************************************ANYWAY, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS.
GROUP HUG. WE WILL PREVAIL -- BECAUSE BFF HAS UNSTOPPABLE TALENT. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT.
***********************************************************************************
RE: ALICE CHILDRESS
BY THE WAY, SOMEBODY ASKED IN THE LAST ARMCHAIR IF ALICE CHILDRESS (AMONG OTHERS) IS A
REAL PERSON. YES, SHE IS A SOUTHERN AUTHOR OF MY GENERATION WHO SEEMS TO HAVE A SPECIAL
APPEAL FOR CERTAIN SOUTHERN GENERATION X-ERS. (SHE WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH BY LI'L KIM
IN A RECENT ROLLING STONE INTERVIEW.
BEN'S ATTITUDE TOWARDS ALICE CHILDRESS WAS INTERESTING AND AMBIVALENT. I SENSE THAT,
WHILE HE GOT ON HER FOR HER NAIVE "OPTIMISM", THERE WAS SOMETHING IN HER OUTLOOK THAT
HE ULTIMATELY NEEDED. SHE WAS THE ONE WHO HE CALLED WHEN HE GOT BEATEN UP -- BECAUSE,
DESPITE HIS TOUGH POSE, HE TOO NEEDED SOMEONE TO TELL HIM THAT EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO
BE ALL RIGHT. (PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF YOU HAVE HEARD THIS EXPLICATION FOR THE THOUSANDTH
TIME...IT'S NEW TO ME.)
INQUIRY ON SUMMER B.:
- ----I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF ANYONE REALLY HAS ANY GOOD INFO ON "SUMMER B." I KNOW SHE'S
A REAL PERSON, BUT HOW DID SHE FIGURE INTO BEN'S LIFE? WAS SHE A GIRLFRIEND, OR
SOMETHING MORE?
THANKS FOR LISTENING. IT'S A SPECIAL PLEASURE TO BE AMONG THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND.
BRAD C. ("LAUGHING AT MY TORCH?")
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:44:44 +1000 (EST)
From: Josephine
Subject: live at LIVID
HEY everyone.
I have just joined this list :) and this is my first time writing.
I thought I might introduce myself. I'm 17 and my favourite bands are Ben
Folds Five, Weezer, Ash, Blur, That Dog, and Custard.
I saw Ben Folds Five live a few weeks ago at the LIVID festival and they
kicked ass. I can't explain how good they were, the whole show was great,
his voice, their enthusiasm, their manner and charisma. Something about
their performance just set them apart from other bands. Was there anyone
else from this list who went?
The set list was "Dwarf, Julianne, Steven, Kate, Underground, Pyser,
Dumped and Philosophy" It simply rocked. They didn't play the battle of who
could care less, which was mighty upsetting and the only gripe I have.
Ben Folds stood on this HUGE speaker and did a little cover of this
yippy-yippy yi cover thing (I really can't remember what it's from and I
wanna know!!!) and everyone was singing along. oohhh! fun! After their
finale song (all through which Ben Folds was banging the piano with a stool)
Ben Folds took the piano stool about 2 metres from the piano and threw it.
WHOO!! :) fun fun fun
ok I'm through....
bye bye!
Josie.
P.S anyone who wants to chat about LIVID can email me :)
____________________________________________________________________
"let's go siesta, in your ford fiesta" ------- elastica
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